Dalai Lama says he has given up on China talks,on the verge of retirement

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Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama is on the verge of retirement, said Karma Cheophel, speaker of Tibetan Parliament-in-exile in Dharamsala, seat of Tibetan government-in-exile.
The Dalai Lama said Saturday he has given up on efforts to convince China to allow greater autonomy for Tibet under Chinese rule.The Tibetan spiritual leader said he would now ask the Tibetan people to decide how to take the dialogue forward.
"As far as I'm concerned I have given up," "The issue of Tibet is not the issue of the Dalai Lama alone. It is the issue of 6 million Tibetans. I have asked the Tibetan government-in-exile, as a true democracy in exile, to decide in consultation with the Tibetan people the future course of action," the Dalai Lama said.
His speech was translated by his spokesman, Tenzin Takhla.
Dalai Lama made his first public appearance on Saturday during the celebration of the 48th anniversary of Tibetan Children Village (TCV) School, after his surgery for the removal of gallstones.
His Holiness emphasized on education, not general education but specialized education and that Tibetan young people must specialize in different fields of education.
Dalai Lama has also called a special meeting of Tibetan exiles in November to discuss this year''s political unrest in Tibet and the future of the Tibetan movement in Dharamsala the Exile Home of Dharamsala

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Neron Kesar

In a vivid dream this morning (11-1-08), I saw that the Dalai Lama was in his palace in Lhasa. He appeared to be sick with pneumonia. I thought it incumbent upon me to visit him there.

He did not appear to know me. I retired to a barren hillside nearby in order to survey the landscape. I saw only dry, short grasses against a backdrop of spectacular rocky peaks, which were nearly barren of snow and ice.

I moved over the grounds, glancing at two small decrepit American-style bungalows, before resting my eyes down the hill, where I saw a well-regimented Americanized grade school. There was a tall cyclone fence around the school and children playing soccer on a green lawn surrounding the school. They appeared to be secure and happy.

I returned to the palace and saw United States Senator Elizabeth Dole planting red arrows next to the palace. She was dressed in red. I approached her and thanked her for her husband's work on the landmark Americans with Disabilities Act.

I went inside and engaged in a discussion with officials present (though unseen). I told them to tell China about global warming. The discussion moved to the subject of "empire". I glanced across the room and saw a bank of vending machines stocked with American brands. I said, "I do not agree with your model of empire". The dream then ended.

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#1 - Sat Nov 1, 2008 11:14 PM EDT

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gladbutterfly

This is a very sad moment, when the Dalai Lama gives up. It is a mark against China that he should have been moved to this action.

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#2 - Sun Nov 2, 2008 7:03 PM EST

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dharamsala

The Dalai Lama asks the Tibetan People to decide the further on the Tibet-China Talks.He feels its the Tibetan people who should decide on their future.

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1 vote

#3 - Mon Nov 3, 2008 2:26 AM EST

{"commentId":3849917,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

Neron Kesar

What are the deficits with this proposal:

"A Solution for the Dalai Lama, Tibet, China, and the Olympics",

http://amberneve.newsvine.com/_news/2008/04/07/1416823-a-solution-for-the-dalai-lama-tibet-china-and-the-olympics

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#3.1 - Mon Nov 3, 2008 12:26 PM EST

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dharamsala

This is certainly not an solution for the Dalai Lama , Tibet nor for the Chinese.

Why are the talks failing every time , its just because there has been never an inclination from the Chinese to bend and not listen to what the 6 millions tibetans in exile are trying to say.

Every approach is failing just because China is becoming strong and hard.

There has to be a solution for this.Something should be done.

Though Your article in this situation is quite realistic what this is not what 6 millions people in exile are waiting for.

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#3.2 - Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:43 AM EST

{"commentId":3880803,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

Neron Kesar

I get the sense that the parties to this question are looking backward rather than forward. I find my inspiration and motivation in the prophecies. I am looking forward.

When you look forward what do you see?

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1 vote

#3.3 - Tue Nov 4, 2008 4:35 PM EST

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dharamsala

If i be optimistic i see a Miracle happening for the Tibet.

And if i be realistic without being optimistic i see things same as now.

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#3.4 - Wed Nov 5, 2008 6:19 AM EST

{"commentId":3915665,"authorDomain":"amberneve"}

Neron Kesar

You want a miracle?

This is a miracle:

I read your latest comments this morning and pondered how to respond. I thought I should go back and read your article in full. I had read only the first two paragraphs before. While reading the article today, I noted with interest this:

"Dalai Lama made his first public appearance on Saturday during the celebration of the 48th anniversary of Tibetan Children Village (TCV) School, after his surgery for the removal of gallstones.

"His Holiness emphasized on education, not general education but specialized education and that Tibetan young people must specialize in different fields of education."

Again, I had not read this before today. Now recall what I saw in my dream on 11-1-08:

"I moved over the grounds, glancing at two small decrepit American-style bungalows, before resting my eyes down the hill, where I saw a well-regimented Americanized grade school. There was a tall cyclone fence around the school and children playing soccer on a green lawn surrounding the school. They appeared to be secure and happy."

How would YOU otherwise explain this "coincidence"?

Now that Elizabeth Dole has been defeated in her bid for re-election in North Carolina, perhaps she can be induced to intervene in the talks between the Dalai Lama and China.

I think the red arrows in the dream are fireworks, representing independence.

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1 vote

#3.5 - Wed Nov 5, 2008 3:33 PM EST

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gladbutterfly

I agree that the Chinese government is utterly insensitive to, and intolerant of, the need for Tibetan autonomy. I don't know what else the Dalai Lama could do in the face of that contempt for human rights. I am sorry to see him quit, but I totally understand why.

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#4 - Tue Nov 4, 2008 6:38 PM EST

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dharamsala

Who do you think is right His Holiness The Dalai Lama or the Chinese ?

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#5 - Wed Nov 5, 2008 1:32 PM EST

{"commentId":3920738,"authorDomain":"inghar2004"}

gladbutterfly

I totally support, the Dalai Lama on his position for Tibet. I don't understand the Chinese antipathy for Tibetan Buddhism, especially now that Mao is gone. I think they must feel it is a threat.

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#5.1 - Wed Nov 5, 2008 5:50 PM EST

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